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Descendants of Daniel KUCHEL, Johann George KUCHEL & Anna Dorothea SEIFFERT, Anne Elizabeth STEINBORN & Johann Christian LIEBELT, Anna Dorothea GREISER & Johann Gottfried LUBASCH.
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1. Introduction 2. Background Gottlieb's KUCHEL's Parents: - Dorothea (1811c-1895) and Erdmann (1812-1869) Gottlieb KUCHEL's Siblings 4. ├── Johann Louise KUCHEL 1840-1922 Married Eduard David GREGOR Their Children were: ├── Wilhelmine Henrietta GREGOR (1861-1945) Marriage records not found, children with August HOLST ├── Carl August Lebrecht GREGOR (1863 death date not found) Married Bessey PHILLIPS (1834-1914) ├── Maria Louise GREGOR (1865-1953) Married William WOODLAND (1863-1937) ├── Friedrich Wilhelm GREGOR (1868- 1919) Never married. ├── Johanna Louisa GREGOR (1870-1947) Married Albert SOAR (1868c -1949) ├── Gottlieb Edward GREGOR (1872-1951) Married Edith Mary COLLINS (1880-1948 ) ├── Lydia Elizabeth GREGOR (1873-1957) Married Henry Martin BERRY (1873-1914) ├── Emma Dorothea GREGOR (1876-1928) Married Graham Benjamin MARSH (1869-1930) ├── Anna Auguste GREGOR (1878-1958) Married Alfred James BURFORD (1875-1957) └── Alma OttilieGREGOR (1880-1957) Married Freidrich Wilhelm 'Bill' BRAENDLER (1878-1964) 5. ├── Johanna Dorothea KUCHEL 1842-1926 Married Johann Wilhelm August GUST Their Children were: ├── Anna Louise GUST (1867 death date unknown) Married John Allan Barry WILSON (b unknown). ├── Friedrich Wilhelm GUST (1870 death date unknown) Never married. └── Heinrich August GUST (b1873 death date unknown) Never married. 6. ├── Johann Gottlieb KUCHEL 1846-1923 Married Johanne Louise LIEBELT Their Children were: 6.1 ├── Anna 'Bertha' KUCHEL 1872-1938 Married William COLLINS 6.2 ├── Gustav Adolph KUCHEL 1873-1931 Married Louise Martha BRAENDLER 6.3 ├── Johanne Caroline KUCHEL 1875-1876 6.4 ├── Johann Gottlieb KUCHEL 1877-1951 Married Marie Bertha SCHMEISS 6.5 ├── Gottfried Alfred KUCHEL 1879-1967 Married Rose Therese Irene HENNINGSEN. 6.6 ├── Maria 'Emma' KUCHEL 1881-1923 Married Wilhelm 'Albert' EY 6.7 ├── Pauline Hulda KUCHEL 1883-1957 Married Edward Otto MUELLER. 6.8 ├── Martha Mathilda KUCHEL (1886-1887). 6.9 ├── Johanna Louise KUCHEL (1888) Married Ernest NELSON. 6.10└── Johann Friedrich Wilhelm KUCHEL (1891-1960) Never married. 7. ├── Johann Friedrich Hanfried KUCHEL 1850-1909 Married Emma KUBERN Their Children were: ├── Johann Friedrich KUCHEL 1898-1898. ├── Caroline Dorothea KUCHEL 1899-1920 ├── Albert Edward KUCHEL 1901-1963 Married Adeline Ivy Laura Maud PENNERY. ├── Alma Othilie KUCHEL 1902-1974 Married Herbert Wilhelm ZEUNERT. ├── Ida Clara Auguste KUCHEL b1907 └── Clara A KUCHEL (. ) Married WOOLLEY ??? 8. └── Anna Elizabeth KUCHEL 1854-1932 Married to Rudolph Richard Edmund DIEDERICH Their Children were: ├── Ida Clara Auguste DIEDERICH Married Ludwig Theodore Harry SCHARENBERG └── Wilhelm Paul DIEDERICH Married Kath NEWCOMBE
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1. Introduction
- Daniel KUCHEL is John MUELLER's GGG Grandfather, Anna GREISER and Gottfried LUBASCH are John's GGG Grandparents.
- Daniel KUCHEL is the author's GGGG Grandfather, Anna GREISER and Gottfried LUBASCH are the author's GGGG Grandparents.
This article begins with a KUCHEL marrying a LIEBELT in 1822ca
Illustration 'A'
In 1838 Maria Elizabeth KUCHEL b1878 and her husband Johann 'Christian' LIEBELT b1801 were living in the small Prussian, Brandenburg village of Nickern, with all of their 3 children, aged 14, 12 and 5 years.
Christian's younger brother Johann 'Christoph' LIEBELT and his wife Anna WOLF also lived there with 3 of their children aged 7, 4 and 1 year old.
Christian's older brother Johann 'Gottfried' LIEBELT, his wife Anna POHLE and their 3 children aged 14, 5 and 3 years lived in a village 2.3 kms to the east, called Schönborn.
This village was also where Christian, Christoph and Gottfried parents lived: Johann 'Christoph' (senior) LIEBELT and his wife Anna Elisabeth STEINBORN. In 1838, when all of these LIEBELTS's above, came to South Australia, the parents were aged 62 and 68 years of age. [01]
Then a KUCHEL married a KUCHEL in 1838 and a KUCHEL married another LIEBELT in 1871.
Illustration 'B'
Christian LIEBELT's wife, Maria, and her sister Johanne 'Dorothea' Elizabeth KUCHEL were possibly born in the village of Lochow, just over 3kms, S.E. from Nickern, where their father, Daniel KUCHEL lived. (Kuchel 1838-1970 pge 6 and Liebelt Family History pge 44).
In 1823 Maria and Christian had the first of their 3 children: Johann Gottlieb LIEBELT (28 Dec 1823 - 11 May 1893) who was 14 years of age on the 'Zebra' in 1838, and his future wife Johanne Karoline LUBASCH (22 April 1827-30 May 1902) (Kavel's People by David Schubert pge 166 & see Adelaide Hills LocalWiki 'LUBASCH') from Rissen, was an 11 year old on board the same vessel.
In 1847 they were married in the Schoolroom at Hahndorf by Pastor KAVEL I(SAGHS marriage Records), and both are buried in the Hahndorf Cemetery. For more information and photographs of Johann Gottlieb LIEBELT and Johanne Karoline LUBASCH, see .......................end of article
CEMETERY PHOTO.
Johanne Karoline LUBASCH and Johann Gottlieb LIEBELT, Hahndorf Cemetery. photo JBH, 2020.
2. Background
Where did the LIEBELT's, LUBASCH's and KUCHEL's live in Brandenburg, Prussia?
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Johanne LIEBELT 1848-1940 Gottlieb KUCHEL 1846-1923
Karoline and Gottlieb LIEBELT's first child was Johanne Louise (15 June 1848-29 March 1940) and she along with her husband Johann Gottlieb (21 April 1846-31 October 1923) KUCHEL became the common denominator for this article.
I began with this couple because they appear in many of the photographs in John's collection. Usually they are at the centre of a group photo surrounded by any number of their nine children and their partners. 'Johanne' Louise LIEBELT and her husband of 52years,
Johann 'Gottlieb' KUCHEL, were both born near Hahndorf, South Australia, and were married in 1871, by Pastor Strempel, in the St Michael's Lutheran Church, Hahndorf. From now on they will be referred to as 'Johanne' and 'Gottlieb'.
The 'Zebra', 'Prince George' and the 'Herjeebhoy Rustonjee Patel' (known as the 'Patel').
Johanne's parents had come out as children to the Province of South Australia, her mother, Karoline LUBASCH and her father, Gottlieb LIEBELT were both children on the 'Zebra'. Their villages in Brandenburg, Prussia were separated by only 4.5kms, if they took the route through the fields. (Illustration 'C') Quite likely they already knew of each other before emigration. There adventure together, began with their families on river barges down the Oder, through the waterways of bustling Berlin and up to the Port of Hamburg. Such sights they never could have imagined, followed by a four month sea voyage in 1838.
Gottlieb's parents on the other hand, were adults, his father Gottfried 'Erdmann' KUCHEL 1812-24 Sept 1869, was 33yrs and his mother Johanne Dorothea Elisabeth KUCHEL 1811-16 May 1895, 34 years of age and they had 4 children when they arrived in September 1845 on the 'Herjeebhoy Rustonjee Patel', (I will refer to this ship as 'the Patel'). Gottlieb was their first, of four more children, who were born in their new country. As Gottlieb grew up he would have heard his parents talk of the ships that arrived in 1838 because his paternal grandparents (Georg KUCHEL & Anna SEIFFERT) & three uncles (17, 20 & 23 years of age) were all passengers on the 'Prince George'.
'Prince George' arrived 1838.
'Zebra' arrived 1839.
'Herjeebhoy Rustonjee Patel' arrived 1845.
'Herjeebhoy Rustonjee Patel' arrived 1845
3. Gottlieb Erdmann KUCHEL
Gottlieb's KUCHEL's parents: Dorothea (1811c-1895) and Erdmann (1812-1869)
'Dorothea KUCHEL'Gottlieb's father, who I will refer to by his third name 'Erdmann', was the eldest of the four boys and would have been 26 yrs of age when all the activities were happening in preparation for his 55 & 51 year old parents & his 3 siblings to begin their trip.
For whatever reason, Erdmann, did not accompany his parents in 1838 on the 'Prince George'. However he had married around that time (c1838) to his first cousin, and Dorothea (KUCHEL) had four baby girls born in 1840, 1842, 1843 and 1845, named Louise, Dorothea, Eleonore and Anna Rosin. On their voyage out on the 'Patel' 2 yr old Eleonore did not survive the voyage, and possibly, Anna Rosin, had been born but also died on the ships voyage. (KUCHEL, Ships List).
When Gottlieb's parents & two older sisters arrived, his uncles had been in South Australia for six years. His grandfather (Georg KUCHEL b ca1783) had died seven months earlier but his grandmother (Anna Dorothea SEIFFERT b 1787c) was 59 yrs of age and was, possibly, living with one of her sons.
Family of Gottlieb Erdmann KUCHEL blamed for his premature death in 1869.
'Friedrich' Hanfried KUCHELThis quote is taken from 'KUCHEL' 1838-1970 ' by SCHWERDT, HILL and WITTWER page 6 'It appears that in Germany Gottfried (Erdmann) had followed the trade of tailor in the army. His pair of tailor's shears remained in the family's possession until about 1940 ...... when the family had reason to write to relatives or friends in Germany it was usually Gottfried who composed and wrote the letter.'
'Gottlieb KUCHEL''Little is known of Gottfried's (Erdmann) activities in South Australia, but it can be presumed that he was engaged in farming and also in the trade of his brothers, that is vine dressing and wine making. During hard times the brothers had to take whatever work was available. It is recorded that in 1858 a vine dresser was paid 10s 6d for 3 1/2 days work. Gottfried (Erdmann) (perhaps because he was the eldest) had the best education of the four sons of Johann Georg KUCHEL. When the family had reason to write to relatives or friends in Germany it was usually Gottfried who composed and wrote the letter. '
Gottfried Erdmann KUCHEL died in 1869 as a result of an accident at Mt Barker, when he fell from his horse, two years before his first son, Gottlieb, (his first Australian born child), was married.
On that spring evening when Erdmann fell from his horse, 20 September, near the 'Oakfield Hotel', he apparently appeared intoxicated, (or was it as a result of a head injury and cerebral bleed) and was taken inside the hotel to sleep the night. His sons, Gottlieb 23years and Friedrich 19 years came with a cart to collect him the next day, Sunday. While he had no obvious injuries, he was very quiet and sleepy. Sometime between Sunday and Tuesday his wife and one of his lads thought he 'seemed unconscious' and help was called.
Erdmann dies: So a Mr de Valluois of Balhannah was called and prescribed 'Seidlitz powder and Epsom salts, and ordered cold water to be applied to the head and chest'. Over the next few days till Friday he became unresponsive, neither eating, drinking or talking, and was probably incontinent, until he ceased breathing altogether.
"The deceased came to his death from the effects of a fall from his horse on the 20th instant; that the relatives of the deceased are to blame for not having called in the assistance of a duly qualified medical man, such a one being in the immediate neighbourhood; that the deceased was improperly treated." Quote from Trove.....
'On 20 September, 1869, Gottfried was badly injured in a fall from a horse in Mount Barker (near the old primary school on Adelaide Road) and he died on Friday the 24th. At 4pm on Sunday the 26th, he was buried by Pastor A. Fiedler in the cemetery of the St Johannes Lutheran Church at Hahndorf (at the rear of the manse of the present St Paul's Lutheran Church)' (KUCHEL pge 6)
Erdmann was 57 years of age, had been in South Australia for 24 years and his wife Dorothea was about the same age. Unfortunately there are no photographs of Erdmann found to date.
Oakfield Hotel: A Scottish farmer, Lachlan MACFARLAN had built the 'Oakfield Hotel' in 1861 close to the road in Mount Barker and he supplied passing traffic and the coach trade on its way to the eastern states via Wellington on the Murray River. This hotel was later incorporated into the summer residence of Robert & Joanna BARR SMITH, known as Auchendarroch. The original stone work of the 'Oakfield Hotel' can still be determined. In 1869 Lachlan was 63 years of age, all of his 11 children had been born, and from the following year he leased out the Hotel to other publicans. Lachlan's wife, (Anna Dorothea 'Luise') was 13 years of age on the 'Zebra' in 1839, and one of the 7 daughters of Gottfried LUBASCH, Waterloo Veteran and first hotelier in Hahndorf. The young Gottlieb KUCHEL, was soon to marry (1871) the niece of 'Luise'.
See Local Wiki: 'Lubasch and his 7 daughters'.
Dorothea survives her husband Erdmann KUCHEL, by 26 years.
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"His widow (Dorothea) lived the latter part of her days in a house opposite the present Hahndorf Cemetery. She died on 18 May, 1895, at the age of 85. A hearse was not needed, as she was carried across the road from her home and laid to rest near the cemetery gates. For a good while afterwards her dog was often found lying on the grave." (KUCHEL pge 6).
Gottlieb's KUCHEL's Siblings when his father died.
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In 1869 when Erdmann died so unexpectedly and in such terrible circumstances his children were:
├── Johanna Louise KUCHEL - 29 years of age, & had been married for 10 years and was well pregnant with her 5th child to husband Eduard GREGOR.
├── Johanna Dorothea KUCHEL - was 27 years of age, had been married for less than 2 years and had a young daughter to her husband August GUST.
├── Gottlieb KUCHEL - was 23 years of age, (not married) - Gottlieb married in 1871.
├── Johann Friedrich KUCHEL known as 'Hanfried' - 19 years of age (not married).
└── The youngest sibling was Anna Elizabeth KUCHEL - only 15 years of age.
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If the above photo is accurate at being taken in 1890, then Erdmann had died 21 years previous. I am identifying the individuals on left, as follows:
- Far right: Johann Friedrich KUCHEL known as 'Hanfried' b1850, would then be 40 years of age.
- 3rd from right: Gottlieb KUCHEL b1846, would then be 44 years of age.
- Front row: Older woman with head scarf, Dorothea KUCHEL b ca1811, would then be 79 years.
The 2 young men smoking pipes on the right have the same type of hat as the boy on the far right, 2nd from right, and very similar to Gottlieb's hat. This group is unidentified. The woman on the left of Dorothea above, has a baby on her lap, is that her husband on her left? Almost certainly this woman is in the photo below standing behind Dorothea with a shawl around her shoulders.
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| Photo left taken before May 1895. Left to right: Anna Elizabeth, Dorothea, Hanfried and Gottlieb KUCHEL. | ||
| This photograph, above, is identified as grandmother KUCHEL, Gottlieb KUCHEL, Hanfried KUCHEL." Note the similar headdress that Dorothea is wearing similar to photo below. 'Hanfried' is Gottlieb's younger, South Australian born brother, Johann Friedrich 'Hanfried' 1850-1909. Gottlieb's mother Dorothea, died in 1895, by this time Gottlieb was 49 years of age, and with his wife had had all of his 10 children, his brother 'Hanfried' was single and not to marry for another two years. Youngest sister Anna Elizabeth had given birth in 1889 to Ida Clara Augusta, had married Ida's father, Edmund DIEDERICH, two years later and was pregnant with their last child, Wilhelm Paul, at the age of 41 years of age, when her mother died. It seems that 'Hanfried' may have been the only child still at home at the time of his mother's death, and possibly he was caring for and looking after her as she became more frail 84 years of age. | ||
Considering these two photos above, I believe the woman above with the small child is Gottlieb and Johanne's youngest child, Anna Elizabeth KUCHEL and she is nursing Ida Clara Auguste KUCHEL born 12 October 1889.
Gottlieb KUCHEL's Siblings.
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'Grandfather KUCHEL & Sisters'
Rear of Photo by Edmund Diederich
├── Johann Louise (1840-1922) - 5 years old on Herjeebhoy Rustonjee Patel married 26 May 1859, Ev Lutheran Church, Hahndorf, Eduard David GREGOR (1835-1910) had 10 children between 1861-1880. [PHOTOS BELOW]
├── Johanna Dorothea (1842-1926) - 4 years old on Herjeebhoy Rustonjee Patel married 28 February 1867, St Paul's, Hahndorf, Johann Wilhelm August GUST (1834-1914), had 3 children between 1867-1873. [PHOTOS BELOW]
├── Johann Gottlieb (1846-1923) - born Kirchenbergen near Hahndorf, S.A. married 4 May 1871, St Michaels Church, Hahndorf by Pastor STREMPEL, Johanne Louise LIEBELT (1848-1940), had 10 children between 1872-1891. [PHOTOS BELOW]
├── Johann Friedrich Hanfried (1850-1909) - born Hahndorf, S.A. married 30 December 1897, St Paul's Hahndorf,Emma KUBERN (1862- ). had 6 children between 1898-1908c. [PHOTO BELOW]
└── Anna Elizabeth (1854-1932) - born S.A. married 19 April 1891, Residence of Bride, near Hahndorf, to Rudolph Richard Edmund DIEDERICH, had a daughter followed by a son in 1889 and 1895. [PHOTOS BELOW]
4. Johann Louise GREGOR (nee KUCHEL) 1840-1922
1st child of: Johanna Dorothea Elisabeth KUCHEL and Johann Gottfried Erdmann KUCHEL
"The eldest daughter (Johanne Louise) married Eduard David GREGOR. It is said that they farmed the Kirchenbergen property for a while and then lived the rest of their lives at Sailors Gully, near the Onkaparinga River. The descendants of their children still live own the district" (KUCHEL pge 6)
Eduard GREGOR was the son of Christian Dorothee NEUMANN b1799 and Johann Christian GREGOR b1795, He had an older sister Henriette Wilhelmine (1826-1833) and a brother Wilhelm August (1828-1828). His parents were married 14 May 1822, Karge, Karge, Bomst, Posen, Prussia.
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Photos below: 1909 Golden Wedding taken (possibly) 26 May.
Johanna Louise KUCHEL, 20 years and Eduard David GREGOR, 23 years of age, married 26 May 1859 Ev Lutheran Church, Hahndorf, here with 7 of their daughters and 2 sons in 1909. Photo taken from the original, below right.
Gottlieb Edward GREGOR, 2nd from left above, had wedding photos 13 June, 1900, see below. He is also in group family photograph with his Aunt, Johanne LIEBELT and her children and grandchildren. NOTE: There are 7 women and 2 males in the group photo, which means one of the sons is missing.
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Johanna Louise KUCHEL and Eduard GREGOR's Children
├── Wilhelmine Henrietta (1861-1945) - marriage records not found, children with August HOLST (b unknown) had 3 children between 1884-1890.
├── Carl August Lebrecht (1863 death date not found) - married 13 April 1886, PM Chapel, Woodchester, Strathalbyn, Bessey PHILLIPS (1834-1914), had 1 child in 1899.
├── Maria Louise (1865-1953) - married 4 April 1888, PM Church, Mt Barker, William WOODLAND (1863-1937), had 3 children between 1893-1902.
├── Friedrich Wilhelm (1868- 1919) - never married.
├── Johanna Louisa (1870-1947) - married 19 September 1893 Registry Office, Adelaide, to Albert SOAR (1868c -1949) had 2 daughters in 1893 and 1895.
├── Gottlieb Edward (1872-1951) - married 13 June 1900, St Michael Church, Hahndorf, Edith Mary COLLINS (1880-1948 ) had 4 known children between 1901-1914) [PHOTOS BELOW]
├── Lydia Elizabeth (1873-1957) - married 26 September 1900, St Michael Lutheran Church, Hahndorf, Henry Martin BERRY (1873-1914) had 2 daughters in 1901 and 1910.
├── Emma Dorothea (1876-1928) - married at 43 years of age, 31 May 1919, St Margarets, Woodville, to 50 year old Graham Benjamin MARSH (1869-1930). No children.
├── Anna Auguste (1878-1958) - Sailors Gully, Nairne, married 27 December 1899, Residence of her parents, Hahndorf, Alfred James BURFORD (1875-1957) had 1 daughter in 1902.
└── Alma Ottilie (1880-1957) - married 13 February 1906, St Michael Lutheran Church, Hahndorf, Freidrich Wilhelm 'Bill' BRAENDLER (1878-1964) had 2 daughters 1910 and 1913.
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Above Left: These children on a animal fur rug may be two small girls of Louise and Eduard GREGOR. The little girl on the right is wearing the same dress as the small girl in the above photo. The background in this photo is the same as the one above. The style of dress is also very similar with the ribbons at the neck. - Could this be Wilhelmine Henrietta 1861-1945 and younger sister Maria Louise 1865-1953 |
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Gottlieb Edward KUCHEL 1872-1951
Wedding of 6th child of Johanna Louise KUCHEL and Eduard GREGOR
Edith Mary COLLINS
'Mrs Gottlieb GREGOR'Gottlieb Edward (1872-1951) aged 28 years, married 13 June 1900, St Michael Church, Hahndorf, Edith Mary COLLINS (1880-1948 ) aged 21 years.
The groom, Edward GREGOR's 1872-1947, mother is the older sister of Gottlieb KUCHEL, who's 6th child is Maria 'Emma' KUCHEL 1881-1923, hence Emma is a 1st cousin to Edward GREGOR. Emma later married Wilhelm Albert EY in 1812. Emma is the great Aunt of John MULLER the owner of this photo collection.
The bride Edith Mary COLLINS 1880-1948, daughter of Susannah BARRETT and George COLLINS who had 10 siblings and Edith was number eight, the others were: Alfred James b1863, Caroline b1864, Ellin Jane b1867, Louisa Rebecca b1870, William Charles 1872-1942, Edward George b1874, Rosina Eliza b1875, Lilly Matilda b1875, Arthur James b1878, Edith Mary, and the 17 year old male above, 'Herb' Herbert Richard 1883-1957. - Photo: Wedding: 13 June 1900, taken by Edmund DIEDERICH.
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Photo on right by Edmund DIEDERICH, uncle of Edward GREGOR.
The groom, Edward GREGOR is sitting on left, his hat (that he holds in his lap in the photo with his bride) is on the ground on the far right. The bride, Edith COLLINS is in the background on the right. The groom with his male friends has a bow tie on but not so in the photo with his bride. Note the background to the photo is the same as the two wedding photos above.
Illustration I
5. Johanna Dorothea GUST (nee KUCHEL) 1842-1926.
2nd child of: Johanna Dorothea Elisabeth KUCHEL and Johann Gottfried Erdmann KUCHEL:
Johanna Dorothea KUCHEL 26 years and Johann Wilhelm August GUST 30 years of age, married 28 February 1867, St Paul's, Hahndorf.
"On 28 February, 1867, the second daughter, Johanne Dorothea, married J.W. August GUST at St Paul's Hahndorf. He farmed at Friedrichstadt (on the road from Hahndorf to Echunga) and later moved to Mount Gambier. They had two sons, who has no issue, and one daughter Anna, who married Jack Wilson. Most of their descendants live in the Mount Gambier and Portland areas." KUCHEL page 6.
They had the following Children:
The only other GUST photo in the collection is this one of a young male sitting on fur rugs.
├── Anna Louise (1867 death date unknown) - married 5 February 1897 St Michael Ev Lutheran Church, Hahndorf, John Allan Barry WILSON (b unknown).
├── Friedrich Wilhelm (1870 death date unknown) - never married.
└── Heinrich August (b1873 death date unknown) - never married.
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These two homes shown are identical. Male with white beard in both photos could be August GUST. |
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6. Johann Gottlieb KUCHEL 1846-1923
3rd child of: Johanna Dorothea Elisabeth KUCHEL and Johann Gottfried Erdmann KUCHEL:
Johann Gottlieb KUCHEL born Kirchenbergen near Hahndorf, S.A. married at 25 years of age on 4 May 1871, St Michaels Church, Hahndorf by Pastor STREMPEL, to 23 year old Johanne Louise LIEBELT 1848-1940, they had 10 children between 1872-1891.
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Johanne Louise LIEBELT and Johann Gottlieb KUCHEL both born in South Australia, are the great grandparents of John MUELLER who has preserved this large collection of historic photographs.
Johanne's parents were children on the Zebra, arriving 1839, and Gottlieb's parents had married in Prussia and were in their 30's when they arrived on the Heerjeebhoy Rustonjee Patel in 1845.
Johanna Louise LIEBELT and Gottlieb KUCHEL's Golden Wedding anniversary.
- Below: 3 photos from same event.
- The timber slab barn with the thatched roof is in the background of all 3 photos.
'LIEBELT family KUCHEL Golden Wedding'
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 'LIEBELT family, grandmother KUCHEL, J.G. KUCHEL Golden Wedding. |
above: - Gottlieb KUCHEL and Johanna LIEBELT, possibly surrounded by their siblings. |
above: - 'LIEBELT and KUCHEL Golden Wedding' |
above: - Gottlieb KUCHEL and Johanna LIEBELT, possibly surrounded by 7 or their 8 surviving children. |
Johanna Louise LIEBELT and Gottlieb KUCHEL's Children.
6.1 ├── Anna Bertha (1872-1938) married 13 September 1899, at residence of parents, nr Hahndorf, William Charles COLLINS (b 1872-1942 had 8 children between 1900-1913. [PHOTOS BELOW]
6.2 ├── Gustav Adolph (1873-1931) married 6 August 1903, St Paul's Church, Hahndorf, Louise Martha BRAENDLER (1879-1944), had 10 children between 1905-1920. [PHOTOS BELOW]
6.3 ├── Johanne Caroline (1875-1876)
6.4 ├── Johann Gottlieb (1877- 1951) married.9 June 1910, residence of R.H. Coles, Hahndorf, Marie Bertha SCHMEISS (1886-1974) had 4 children 1911-1926.
6.5 ├── Gottfried Alfred (1879-1967) married 19 January 1920 St Michael Church, Hahndorf by Pastor BRAUER, Rose Therese Irene HENNINGSEN (1888-1975) had 7 children 1911-1928
6.6 ├── Maria Emma (1881-1923) married 11 April 1912, St Paul's Church, Hahndorf, Wilhelm Albert EY (1883-1964) had 3 children 1912-1919. [PHOTOS BELOW]
6.7 ├── Pauline Hulda (1883-1957) married 10 April 1913, St Paul's Church, Hahndorf, Edward Otto MUELLER (1882-1954) had 4 children 1914-1925. [PHOTOS BELOW]
6.8 ├── Martha Mathilda (1886-1887).
6.9 ├── Johanna Louise (1888-... married 23 April 1914 St Paul's Church, Hahndorf, Ernest NELSON (1892 -1956) had 3 children 1915-1924.
6.10 └── Johann Friedrich Wilhelm (1891-1960) never married [PHOTOS BELOW]
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The 4 KUCHEL girls: Bertha, Emma, Hulda & Louise.
Photos by Edmund DIEDERICH, Uncle to these siblings
These two photos, above and below, were taken on the same occasion.
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6.1 ├── Anna 'Bertha' COLLINS (nee KUCHEL) 1872-1938
1st child of Johanna Louise LIEBELT and Gottlieb KUCHEL
Anna 'Bertha' KUCHEL married William COLLINS, 13 September 1899
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Anna Bertha KUCHEL photo by Edmund DIEDERICH, Bertha's Uncle. |
Anna Bertha KUCHEL, William Charles COLLINS and three of their children, photo by Edmond DEDERICH. |
They had the following Children:
├── Harry Charles COLLINS 1900-1978, married 27 July 1927, to Irene Myrtle Osma KORBER 1901-1994, they had 3 children 1928-1932. [PHOTO BELOW]
├── Anna Mathilda CHRISTIAN (nee COLLINS) 1901-1967, married 31 August 1927, Ambleside, to William Woodworth CHRISTIAN 1883-1953, they had 1....... 1931
├── Alfred James COLLINS 1903-1975, married .......Doris Julia WIGGE, they had 5 daughters between 1946-1961. [PHOTO BELOW]
├── Ernest Louis COLLINS 1905-1973, married Veronica Jean WILSON 1911-2006, had 3 children. [PHOTO BELOW]
├── Edwin William COLLINS 1907-1982 [PHOTO BELOW]
├── William George COLLINS 1909-1958 married Winifred May NORTON 1917-1979, they had 4 children. [PHOTO BELOW]
├── Alick Benjamin COLLINS 1911, married Rubina Nora LINDNER 1907-1991, they had 2 boys. [PHOTO BELOW]
└── Emma Rose WITTWER (nee COLLINS) 1913-1994, married Eric Julius WITTWER 1910-1997, they had 3 children. [PHOTO BELOW]
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Anna Bertha KUCHEL and William Charles COLLINS : with all of their 8 children, 2 girls and 6 boys, ca 1925.
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Harry Charles COLLINS 1900-1978
Eldest child of Anna Bertha KUCHEL and William Charles COLLINS
Harry Charles COLLINS married 27 July 1927, to Irene Myrtle Osma KORBER 1901-1994, they had 3 children 1928-1932. [PHOTO BELOW]
  'Harry COLLINS' |
 'To Uncle Bill from Harry & Rene 27 July 1917' |
| Harry Charles COLLINS marries Myrtle KORBER, 1917. |
Anna Mathilda CHRISTIAN (nee COLLINS) 1901-1967
Second child of Anna Bertha KUCHEL and William Charles COLLINS
married 31 August 1927, Ambleside, to William Woodworth CHRISTIAN 1883-1953, they had 1 ..... .. 1931
Alfred James COLLINS 1903-1975
Third child of Anna Bertha KUCHEL and William COLLINS
married Doris Julia WIGGE, they had 5 daughters between 1946-1961. [PHOTO BELOW]
  'Alf COLLINS' |
 'Alf COLLINS' |
| Alfred James COLLINS |
Unknown woman below, whose photo background is identical to the two above with Harry & Alf COLLINS: Frieda MULLER
'Frieda MULLER'
Ernest Louis COLLINS 1905-1973
Fourth child of Anna Bertha KUCHEL and William Charles COLLINS
married Veronica Jean WILSON 1911-2006, had 3 children. [PHOTO BELOW]
Edwin William COLLINS 1907-1982 [PHOTO BELOW]
Fifth child of Anna Bertha KUCHEL and William Charles COLLINS
William George COLLINS 1909-1958
Sixth child of Anna Bertha KUCHEL and William Charles COLLINS
married Winifred May NORTON 1917-1979, they had 4 children. [PHOTO BELOW]
Alick Benjamin COLLINS 1911-
Seventh child of Anna Bertha KUCHEL and William Charles COLLINS
married Rubina Nora LINDNER 1907-1991, they had 2 boys. [PHOTO BELOW]
'Alick COLLINS'
Original Property - Hahndorf Bowling Club
This land was originally owned by Alick Benjamin Collins and consisted of three allotments 115, 116 and 117 of Section 4002 which were sold by him for use by the Hahndorf Bowling Club and Hahndorf Senior Citizens for their subsequent community use - refer to HBC - Ownership & Early History for further details.
Hans Heysen sketches William Charles COLLINS and his eldest child, son, Harry Charles COLLINS.
All 4 sketches below were produced by Hans Heysen.
William COLLINS 1872-1942, was 39 years of age in 1911, his son Harry Charles COLLINS (1900-1978) was 8 years of age in 1908.
 'Old Man Collins', 1911, pastel. |
 'The Axeman,' Bill Collins, 1910, charcoal on paper. |
 'Harry Collins of Billy-Goat Lane' |
 'Collins jnr, Flute Player' 1908, charcoal and pastel on dark buff paper. |
The Cedars: Additional information.
A little bit of recent “Royal” frippery at The Cedars!
(Allan Campbell - Extract from Hahndorf Village Voice #29, March 2012)
Maybe of interest to readers of the Village Voice is that Hahndorf had a royal visit. The Governor and his wife brought Prince Edward, Duke of Kent, to The Cedars (apparently at his request) to spend an hour looking through the Heysen studios and residence. There are , of course, quite a number of Heysen originals in the Royal Collection at Buckingham Palace in London, as many of the visiting royals were presented with a painting by Sir Hans as a memento of their visit to Australia. The Duke was most interested to know that a study in pastel of Old Man Collins of English Street was given as a gift to his grandmother, Queen Mary, by Dame Nellie Melba ..... he was inspecting a small exhibition of Heysen's drawings in the main studio of William Collins, who was a favoured subject of Hans Heysen as they lived opposite one another in English Street for the four years that the Heysen Family resided in the village itself. The artist paid Collins the princely sum of one shilling to model for him!
After leaving The Cedars, the vice regal party took their royal visitor up to The Lane for a wine tasting!
Emma Rose WITTWER (nee COLLINS) 1913-1994
Eighth child of Anna Bertha KUCHEL and William Charles COLLINS
Married Eric Julius WITTWER 1910-1997, they had 3 children.[PHOTO BELOW]
Johanna Louise LIEBELT and Gottlieb KUCHEL's
Fred KUCHEL, Oscar MARTIN
Johanna Louise LIEBELT and Gottlieb KUCHEL's four daughters
Photo by Edmund DIEDERICH, Uncle to these siblings.
4 KUCHEL sisters
Johanna Louise LIEBELT and Gottlieb KUCHEL's daughters: Maria Emma and Johanne Louise KUCHEL.
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Says 'Gustav KUCHEL Silver Wedding' NOT correct, possibly a Christening of 2 grandchildren 1909
Johanna Louise LIEBELT and Gottlieb KUCHEL's family: taken on same day as one above
KUCHEL family Echunga Road
Johanna Louise LIEBELT and Gottlieb KUCHEL's family
Gathering at J.G. KUCHEL
Johanna Louise LIEBELT and Gottlieb KUCHEL, with all of their living children except Gustav Adolph KUCHEL
'KUCHEL family'
Gathering at J.G. KUCHEL
6.2 ├── Gustav Adolph KUCHEL 1873-1931
2nd child of Johanna Louise LIEBELT and Gottlieb KUCHEL:
Gustav Adolph KUCHEL at 29 years of age married Louise Martha BRAENDLER 23 years of age on 6 August 1903, Ev Lutheran St Paul, Hahndorf.
They had the following Children:
.Gustav Adolph Kuchel' - Photo by Edmond DEDERICH, Gustav's uncle.
├── Benjamin Theodor 1905-1967, married Doris Edna CARPENTER
├── Oswald Adolf Paul b1906, married Dorothy Nellie MAGOR
├── Christoph Otto Alfred b1907, married Coralie Edith WILLIS
├── Edward Wilhelm 1909-1962 married Beatrice Annie MENADUE
├── Gustav Adolph 1911-1911.
├── Martha Louise b1911 married Gordon Lindsay WHITE
├── Alwina Selma b1912 married Lorenz Edwin ZILM [PHOTO BELOW]
├── Alfred Paul 1915-1963, married Nellie Clare HUNTER nee HENTY.
├── Herbert Arthur b1916 married Gwen Ambrose Pearce CLOUGH.
└── Gordon Albert b1920married Audrey Charlotte PARBS.
Wedding day 1903 Gustav Adolph KUCHEL and Louise Martha BRAENDLER
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 'Gustav & Martha KUCHEL' |
 'Gustav KUCHEL wedding' - Background is a Fachwerk Prussian barn. - Photo by Edmund DIEDERICH, 1903 |
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Below: Some of the guests identified:
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| Below - Gustav Adolph KUCHEL and Louise Martha BRAENDLER with four of their children, possibly the first four boys, ca 1917 | Below - Gustav Adolph KUCHEL with pony, and Louise Martha BRAENDLER on verandah, with four of their children, possibly the first four boys, playing in the grass. 1911c. |
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  'Gustav KUCHEL, home Hahndorf' |
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Benjamin Theodor Gustav KUCHEL married Doris Edna CARPENTER 26 June 1935. Oswald Adolf Paul KUCHEL married Dorothy Nellie MAGOR 15 October 1932. Christoph Otto Alfred KUCHEL married Coralie Edith WILLIS 1935. Edward Wilhelm KUCHEL married Beatrice Annie MENADUE 27 March 1937. |
Possibly the same four boys as mentioned above. Home has a single chimney Large barn at rear. |
| Below - Gustav Adolph KUCHEL standing, and Louise Martha BRAENDLER with large hat, sitting, ca 1911. |
Below - Gustav Adolph KUCHEL standing 2nd from left, and Louise 'Martha' BRAENDLER ca 1911. All four boys in same clothing and hats as above. |
  'Gus KUCHEL' |
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Same home as above With four of their children, possibly the first four boys All children wearing straw hats. |
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Silver Wedding Celebrations
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Gustav Adolph KUCHEL and Louise Martha BRAENDLER in centre front, Silver Wedding 1896.  'Gus KUCHEL Silver Wedding' Silver Wedding 1896. |
  'Gustav KUCHEL Silver Wedding' |
All 7 of their surviving children, 2 girls and 7 boys.
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6.3 ├── Johanne Caroline KUCHEL 1875-1876
3rd child of Johanna Louise LIEBELT and Gottlieb KUCHEL
6.4 ├── Johann Gottlieb KUCHEL 1877-1951
4th child of Johanna Louise LIEBELT and Gottlieb KUCHEL:
'Dora, Herb, Otto KUCHEL'
Johann Gottlieb KUCHEL married Marie Bertha SCHMEISS in 1910.
They had the following Children:
'Herbie KUCHEL'
├── Otto Carl Albert (1911-1931)
├── Dora (1914 ) married Allan STEVENS.
├── Frederich Herbert (1919. ) married Priscilla Amelia ASSENDER
└── Ronald Lance (1926- ) married Ivy Florence GALLASCH.
6.5 ├── Gottfried Alfred KUCHEL 1879-1967
5th child of Johanna Louise LIEBELT and Gottlieb KUCHEL:
Gottfried Alfred KUCHEL married Rose Therese Irene HENNINGSEN in 1910
They had the following Children:
├── Ella Refina (1911-1969) married Benno Wilhelm WITTWER
├── Edna May (1913-1913)
├── Frieda Olga (1914 ) married Sydney Bruce GALLASCH
├── Marvis Rose (1917-1920)
├── Louis Alfred (1921- ) married Gwenda Margaret BURGEMEISTER
├── Allan Marcus (1923- ) married Lillian Dawn van der MOLEN.
└── Dudley William (1928- ) married Stella Vera CLASOHM.
'KUCHEL'
'Fred KUCHEL wedding'
6.6 ├── Maria 'Emma' EY (nee KUCHEL) 1881-1923
6th child of Johanna Louise LIEBELT and Gottlieb KUCHEL
married Wilhelm 'Albert' EY in 1912.
They had the following Children:
├── Albert William (1921- )
├── Hilda Emma (1917- ) married Leslie George LEATCH.
└── Rita Mavis (1919- ) married Kenneth Alfred WAKEFIELD.
'Albert EY, Emma'
- 1912 Wedding photo of 29 year old Albert and 30 year old Emma.
MRS J EYE (MÜLLER)
This is possibly Johanne Caroline Mathilde nee MULLER, who married in 1868, Evangelical Lutheran St Martin Church, Rosenthal, Barossa, to Julius Friedrich EY. They had 10 children and the 8th child was Wilhelm Albert EY who married Maria KUCHEL. Her grandchildren are below.
'Hilda EY'
Hilda Emma EY 1917ca.
'Rita EY'
Rita Mavis EY 1919ca.
6.7 ├── Pauline Hulda MUELLER (nee KUCHEL) 1883-1957
7th child of Johanna Louise LIEBELT and Gottlieb KUCHEL
Married Edward Otto MUELLER in 1913.
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Above - Pauline Hulda KUCHEL (1883-1896) Geboren 16 October 1883, Confirmed 1 Advent 1896, at 13 years of age, St Michael of Hahndorf. This certificate is now 140 years old. |
Above - Edward Otto MÜLLER (1882-1895) Geboren 7 February 1882, Confirmed 10 November 1895, at 13 years of age, St Paul's, Hahndorf. This certificate is now 140 years old. |
Edward Otto MUELLER as a baby with his parents
'F MUELLER and family'
Johanne Eleanore PAECH b1851, with husband Carl Ferdinand MUELLER b1851, and their 2 children.
Wilhelm Alfred 'Alf' MUELLER 1879-1928 on the left and newborn, Edward Otto MUELLER 1882-1954, being held by Eleanore.
Below: Edward Otto MUELLER, b 7 February, 1882, Friedrichstadt, nr Hahndorf.
'E.O. MUELLER'
Below: Pauline Hulda KUCHEL aged 29 years married Edward Otto MUELLER aged 31 years on 10 April 1913.
'E.O. MUELLER wedding'
Below: The wedding party of Pauline Hulda KUCHEL and Edward Otto MUELLER.
The following two wedding photos were taken by Edmund DIEDERICH
'E.O. MUELLER nee Hulda KUCHEL'
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On Pauline's left are her parents 67 year old Gottlieb KUCHEL and 65 year old Johanne LIEBELT (unknown child on her lap). Edward's 62 year old parents are alongside of him, Johanne Eleonore PAECH, and Johann Carl Ferdinand MÜLLER.
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Pauline Hulda KUCHEL and Edward Otto MUELLER's 4 children.
├── Edwin Carl (1914-1969) never married.
├── Clarence (1918-1970) never married
├── Ronald (1923-1923)
└── Hilda (1925-2000) mother to John MULLER, owner of these photographs, father was Francesco NATALIE.
Both photos below ca1925
Hilda MUELLER and her two brothers Edwin Carl 9 years of age and Clarence MUELLER, 7 years of age.
Both of these photos were taken out the front of Hilda's MUELLER's home at Paechtown.
'Hilda MUELLER'
 'Edwin MUELLER 17 Dec 1927' |
 'Clarence MUELLER 12 Dec 1930' |
 'Hilda MUELLER 17 Dec 1937' |
| Edwin Carl MUELLER would have been 13 years of age when he received this certificate from the Public School at Ambleside. | Clarence MUELLER would have been 12 years of age when he received this certificate from the Public School at Ambleside. | Hilda MUELLER would have been 12 years of age when she received this certificate from the Public School at Hahndorf. |
Hilda MUELLER, born 11 February 1925, baptised 1 March 1925, confirmed at St Paul's Evangelical Lutheran Church, Hahndorf, on 6 Sunday after Trinity on 30 June 1940, by W.E. PETERING, Pastor.
'Hilda MUELLER'
Edwin Carl MUELLER, back row, 2nd from right.
6.8 ├── Martha Mathilda KUCHEL 1886-1887.
8th child of Johanna Louise LIEBELT and Gottlieb KUCHEL:
6.9 ├── Johanne 'Louise' KUCHEL 1888-1924.
9th child of Johanna Louise LIEBELT and Gottlieb KUCHEL:
Johanna Louise 25 years old, married Ernest NELSON 21 years, 23 April 1914, St Paul's Church Hahndorf.
Below: Johanne Louise KUCHEL
'Louise KUCHEL (NELSON)' 
Below: Ernest NELSON
'Ernst NELSON'
Below: photo below by 'Thelma-Duryea, Adelaide.'
Johanne Louise KUCHEL, Ernest NELSON, wedding day 23 April 1914.
'E & L NELSON'
Below: Wedding photo taken by Edmund DIEDERICH, 1914.
Johanne Louise KUCHEL Ernest NELSON and 4 others.
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Below: Large family wedding photo
'J.G. & J.L. KUCHEL'
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Johanne Louise KUCHEL and Ernest NELSON had 3 sons.
├── Clarence Murray b1915
├── Gordon b1918
└── Hurtle b1924
Johanne Louise KUCHEL and her husband Ernst NELSON and their first two sons, 1921c.
'NELSON family'
Johanne Louise KUCHEL, husband Ernst NELSON & their 3 sons, ca 1924.
'Louise nee KUCHEL, Hurtle, Clarence, Ernest NELSON, and Gordon'.
Johanne Louise KUCHEL, husband Ernest NELSON & their 3 sons, late ca1930's. In 1938 Clarence NELSON was 23 years old, Gordon NELSON was 20 years old, and Hurtle NELSON was 14 years of age.
'NELSON family'.
Clarence Murray NELSON married Clarence Ruby MENADUE b1919 on .....
Gordon NELSON
Hurtle NELSON married Caroline POTTER b1927 on ......
'Clarence NELSON'
'Gordon NELSON'
'Hurtle NELSON and Caroline POTTER'
6.10 ├── Johann Friedrich Wilhelm KUCHEL 1891-1960
10th child of Johanna Louise LIEBELT and Gottlieb KUCHEL:
Johann Friedrich Wilhelm never married .
 'Oss LIEBELT, Art NITSCHKE, Ben LIEBELT, Ed LIEBELT, Bill KUCHEL'. |
 'Alf PAECH, Albert EY, Bill KUCHEL'. |
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Above: photo Johann Friedrich Wilhelm 'Bill' KUCHEL is 2nd from right. Oss LIEBELT: is this Oscar Alfred LIEBELT b1901, or Oscar Ernst LIEBELT b1901 Art NITSCHKE: is this Arthur William NITSCHKE Ben LIEBELT: is this Philip Benjamin LIEBELT b1900, 1st cousin to Ed and Oss. Ed LIEBELT: is this Alfred Edward LIEBELT b1903, brother of Oss. Bill KUCHEL: is Johann Friedrich Wilhelm KUCHEL b1891. |
Above: photo by Edmund DIEDERICH. - Johann Friedrich Wilhelm 'Bill' KUCHEL, is on far right. Alf PAECH: is this Alfred Carl PAECH b1892 who married Auguste Ottilie FROMM b1891, in 1919. Albert EY: is this Wilhelm Albert EY b1883, and married 'Bill's sister Maria 'Emma' KUCHEL b1881, in 1912. Bill KUCHEL: is Johann Friedrich Wilhelm KUCHEL b1891. |
7. Johann Friedrich 'Hanfried' KUCHEL 1850-1909
4th child of: Johanna Dorothea Elisabeth KUCHEL and Johann Gottfried Erdmann KUCHEL
Johann Friedrich KUCHEL 1850-1909 born.......... near Hahndorf, S.A. when he was 49 years of age he married on 30 December 1897, St Paul's Church, Hahndorf, to Emma KUBERN b1862
They had 6 children between 1898-...... :
├── Johann Friedrich 1898-1898.
├── Caroline Dorothea 1899-1920 born Sawmill Gully.
├── Albert Edward 1901-1963 born Sawmill gully married Adeline Ivy Laura Maud PENNERY.
├── Alma Othilie 1902-1974 born Sawmill gully, married Herbert Wilhelm ZEUNERT.
├── Ida Clara Auguste b1907 Sawmill gully
└── Clara A (. ) m WOOLLEY????
Photo below by: Hanfried's brother in law Edmund Diederich.
Johann Friedrich KUCHEL.
'Hanfried KUCHEL'
8. Anna Elizabeth KUCHEL 1854-1909.
8th child of: Johanna Dorothea Elisabeth KUCHEL and Johann Gottfried Erdmann KUCHEL
Anna Elizabeth KUCHEL at 37 years of age married 19 April 1891, Residence of bride, Hahndorf, to Rudolph Richard Edmund DIEDERICH 37 years of age, 1854-.1923.
Their Children were:
├── Ida Clara Auguste DIEDERICH b1889 married Ludwig Theodore Harry SCHARENBERG 30 December 1918.
└── Wilhelm Paul DIEDERICH b 1895 married Kath NEWCOMBE 31 March 1925.
Photo below: Anna Elizabeth KUCHEL, standing alone in the back row, with her siblings.
- Photo taken by her husband, Edmund DIEDERICH
'Grandfather KUCHEL and his sisters'.
Photo below; Edmund DIEDERICH and his daughter Ida ca 1891
Edmund DIEDERICH would have been about 38 years old.
'DIEDERICH'
Photo below: DIEDERICH's small home.
- Timber slab small home near Hahndorf, identified as being taken around ca 1895. making the small child in the foreground being 6 year old Ida, and her new born brother is in his mother's arms.
'DIEDERICH' 
'Mrs DIEDERICH and Gustav KUCHEL's family'
Johann Gottlieb KUCHEL's (1846-1923) father was Johann Gottfried Erdmann KUCHEL (1812-1869) and he had 3 younger brothers.
- Johann Samuel KUCHEL 1815-1900 married 1839 Johanne Dorothea KLENKE 1817-1891.
- Johann Friedrich KUCHEL 1818-1887 married Johanne Rosine SEIDEL 1825-1893
- Johann Gottlieb KUCHEL 1821-1902 married Maria Elizabeth BARTEL 1826-1884
Below: Photo by Edmund DIEDERICH, Uncle of Gottlieb KUCHEL b1846
Samuel KUCHEL
Samuel KUCHEL
By 1845 only one of Gottlieb's uncles (Samuel KUCHEL) had married. Samuel and his new wife had apparently been among the earliest couples to marry in Hahndorf (1839), apparently under a gum tree, later consuming parrots at their wedding breakfast. (Anni Luur Fox)
Samuel had married Johanna Dorothea KLENKE who had travelled from Kay in Brandenburg, Prussia, (very close to Lochow), with her parents, on the 'Zebra'. Was it her sister who was the first wife of Georg 'Kaysher' PAECH'? Unfortunately her 51 year old farm labourer, father, Christian KLENKE was among the 11 deaths on the voyage, leaving his 49 year old widow Anna Elisabeth GIERKE to manage alone in the new country. (D Schubert Kavel's People). https://localwiki.org/adelaide-hills/Hahndorf_pioneers%2C_were_your_ancestors_on_the_%27Zebra%27%3F.
'A Colonist of 62 years'
When Anna GIERKE died she was living with her daughter Dorothea & Samuel KUCHEL at Kirchenbergen where the KUCHEL's settled for 40 years (Kuchel 1838-1970 page 4). There were 3 young children from this marriage by the time the 'Patel' arrived.
Kirchenbergen
Hd of Onkaparinga. Sections 3821, 3822 & 3823 on the northern side of the main Hahndorf Road.
This extract is referring to Gottlieb KUCHEL's grand parents and uncles that arrived in South Australia in 1838 on the Prince George. This quote is taken from 'KUCHEL 1838-1970' by SCHWERDT, HILL and WITTWER page 4.
"It is believed that in the early 1840's they moved out to (an area known as) Kirchenbergen which was about two miles south of the Hahndorf township. Kirchenbergen (meaning, "hills of the church") was undulating country which the KUCHEL's farmed. It was near Windmill Hill (a well-known spot in the Adelaide Hills) and it was in the gully between the properties now owned by Mr H. BRAENDLER and Mr G PAECH. The ruins of four houses, probably built by the KUCHEL's, can still be seen on Mr BRAENDLER's property."
"Kirchenbergen comprised three sections of land totalling about 240 acres (sections 3821, 3822, 3823)....... purchased by the Incorporated Society for the Progogation of the Gospel in Foreign Parts on 15 May 1841.'
'Kirchenbergen' looking up Leonards Rd, Hahndorf, towards Nixon's Mill. Photo JBH 2021
I am unclear whether 'Kirchenbergen' is the land they farmed, (3 sections was a lot of land in the 1840's) or is it an 'area', more like 'Paechtown'. In 1842 the 3 KUCHEL boys from the Prince George were: Samuel aged 27yrs married with 1 child, Friedrich unmarried at 24yrs of age, and Gottlieb the youngest, aged 21yrs and unmarried. Georg their father died at 'Kirchenbergen' in 1845, 7 years after arrival. The boys mother Anna would have been 55yrs of age.
'Kirchenbergen' looking north down Leonards Rd, Hahndorf.
Does anyone know the answer?
We know that Gottlieb's parents were first cousins. His mother's (Dorothea KUCHEL), father, was Daniel KUCHEL b1774. Daniel also came on the 'Patel', with his daughter Dorothea & his son-in-law Erdmann KUCHEL. I have no information about who Daniel was married to. Seventy year old Daniel is described on the 'Ships List' as coming from Lochow (see Illustration C). Erdmann KUCHEL, has been described in 'Ships List' as coming from Langmeil,( see map above). The same 'Ship's List' also states that Daniel, was among 'eleven persons', who died at sea, 'mostly old men, and very young children.' SAGHS has a Death Index entry.......
There is evidence in the form of a death certificate that a Daniel KUCHEL died in Hahndorf at 83 yrs of age on 27 January 1857. That means he was born c1774, the same age as the Daniel who had apparently died on the 'Patel'.
Johanna and Gottlieb moved to Section 3913 Hd of Kuitpo in 1878.
Hd of Kuitpo, Section 3913Alan Wittwer wrote about this couple in 1980, in the LIEBELT FAMILY HISTORY pge 49:
'Johanne was born on June 15, 1848. As a young woman Johanne worked as a domestic servant in various households. She married Johann Gottlieb KUCHEL in St. Michael's Church on May 4, 1871, Pastor Strempel officiating. Gottlieb was born at Kirchenbergen near Hahndorf on April 21, 1846. His parents were first cousins, Johann Gottfried Erdmann KUCHEL and Johanne Dorothea Elisabeth born KUCHEL, who had emigrated the previous year from the German village of Lochow.
Immediately after their marriage Johanne and Gottlieb lived at Friedrichstadt on the Mount Barker Rd., then in Hahndorf in English Street. They then moved, in about 1878, to part of Section 3913, in the Hundred of Kuitpo which Johanne's father (Gottlieb LIEBELT) had purchased. Here Gottlieb built a home of slabs, straw and mud. The home was demolished several years ago, the site now being marked by a few old trees.
Gottlieb was a carpenter, making rakes and other tools as well as hurdles for the Oakbank races. Gottlieb died on October 31, 1923; Johanne reached the high age of 91 years passing away on March 29, 1940. Both are buried in the Hahndorf cemetery, where their grave is marked by a tombstone. Their old homestead property is now owned and farmed by Mr K. LIEBELT, a grandson of Johanne's brother August.'
Johanna Karoline LUBASCH 1827-1902
2nd daughter of Johann Gottfried LUBASCH and Anna Dorothea GREISER (second wife):
'Mrs C (Gottlieb) LIEBELT'
Below: The parents and siblings of Johanna Karoline LUBASCH.
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Johanna Karoline LUBASCH 1827-1902, 19 years of age marries Johann Gottlieb LIEBELT 1823-1893, 23 years of age, 9 September 1847 by Pastor Kavel in the school room at Hahndorf.
Eldest child of Maria Elisabeth KUCHEL 1798-1879 and Johann Christian LIEBELT 1801-1858: Johann Gottlieb LIEBELT.
Note this photo below is identical in background to the one of his wife, both taken by Charles Niesche, photographer.
'Gottlieb LIEBELT'
Alan WITTWER wrote in the LIEBELT FAMILY HISTORY page 45:
'Johann Gottlieb (LIEBELT) was born on December 28, 1823, probably in the German village of Nickern. (See Meyers Gazette map above) On arrival in Australia in 1839 he lived with his parents in Hahndorf; it seems likely that he was employed as a shepherd in the early days. Gottlieb and Johanne Caroline LUBASCH were married on September 9, 1847; the ceremony was conducted by Pastor A.L.C. KAVEL in the school room at Hahndorf. The witnesses to the marriage were Gottlieb KUCHEL and Christian ZILM'
This Gottlieb KUCHEL was probably Erdmann's youngest brother who had come out on the Prince George and who he may have named his first son after, the Gottlieb KUCHEL of this article. The LIEBELT's and the KUCHEL's were possibly already friends, from knowing them in Lochow, not far from Nickern, or from their shared experiences in Hahndorf (JBH author/researcher).
'Gottlieb and his wife were among the earliest settlers at Friedrichstadt - it is not known exactly when he settled at Friedrichstadt but as his nick-name was 'Squatter' it seems likely that be 'squatted' on his selection before he formally took up the land. On December 5, 1850, he became the registered owner of Section 3903 of the Hundred of Kuitpo. this 80 acre section was purchased from Johann Friedrich PAECH of Grünthal for 80 pound. Access was allowed to other settlers to the water pools on this property. On this section Gottlieb built his first home of mud, straw and slabs.
This home stood until 1912 when it was destroyed in a disastrous bushfire. The home had been replace earlier by an all brick home - one of the first in the Hahndorf area to be built entirely of brick. Over the years Gottlieb purchased and leased additional properties. In February 1856 he paid 300 pound for 30 acres, part of section 3899. On October 16, 1866 he took over the lease of sections 3897, 3895 and 3884 and part of section 3896 in the Hundred of Kuitpo from Gottlob SCHULZ.
Gottlieb leased from the Incorporated Society for the Propagation of the Gospel in Foreign Parts, sections 3696, 3733, 5007 and parts of sections 3732 and 3698 in the Hundred of Macclesfield. The annual rental was 20 pound per year plus 1/- per acre which was cultivated. The land had to be cultivated within 4 years.
Gottlieb was a farmer; it appears likely that he also did some shearing. Much of the land mentioned above is still in the possession of members of the family. On May 11, 1893, Gottlieb passed away at the age of 69 years. His widow attained the age of 75 years, passing away on May 30, 1902. Both are buried in the Hahndorf Cemetery where a tombstone marks their resting place. It is of interest to note that Christian's 3 children and their spouses are buried in adjacent blocks in the Hahndorf Cemetery.'8.
Below: The parents and siblings of Johann Gottlieb LIEBELT.
The couple KUCHEL/LIEBELT. 8.1 Johanne LIEBELT's (b1848) father is Gottlieb LIEBELT (b1823) and his mother is Maria Elisabeth KUCHEL (1798)
Maria Elisabeth KUCHEL 1798-1879
1st of 2 daughters to Daniel KUCHEL:
and her husband, married ca1822
2nd child of Anna Elisabeth STEINBORN and Johann Christoph LIEBELT Snr: Johann Christian LIEBELT 1801-1858
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Johanne Louise LIEBELT 1848-1940
1st child of Johanne Karoline LUBASCH and Johann Gottlieb KUCHEL:
Alan WITTWER wrote in the 'LIEBELT FAMILY HISTORY' page 44:
'Christian married Maria Elisabeth KUCHEL, the daughter of Daniel KUCHEL who lived in the village of Lochow (see map above). We know of three children born to this marriage - Johann Gottlieb, Johann Christoph & Johanne Eleonore were all born in Germany and emigrated to Australia with their parents on the 'Zebra', in 1838.'
'Maria Elisabeth's sister Anna Dorothea (Mrs Johann Gottfried Erdmann KUCHEL) and husband and children, together with Danie KUCHEL, emigrated on the 'Heerjeebhoy Rustonjee Patel' in the year 1845. They settled near Hahndorf. Daniel was listed as 'grossknecht or foreman.'
'Maria Elisabeth lived on in Hahndorf until her death at the age of 81 years on the 2nd of August 1879. She was buried two days later by Pastor STREMPEL in the St. Michael's Cemetery; her bearers were J.F. & J.W. THIELE, W. & A. SCHÜTZ, F.W. WITTWER, C JAENSCH, C. MARKS and F. SCHNEEMILCH. Her tombstone which matches that of her husband still stands.'
'Inscription on tombstones: Here rests in God, our beloved mother Elisabeth LIEBELT, born KUCHEL. She was born January 4, 1798, and died on August. I know that my Redeermer lives; What comfort this sweet sentence gives! PSALM 19.25
Johanne LIEBELT's (b1848) father is Gottlieb LIEBELT and his father is Christian LIEBELT
Photo from Liebelt Family HistoryAlan Wittwer wrote in the LIEBELT FAMILY HISTORY pge 44:
'Johann Christian was born on February 2, 1801. The place of his birth is not known although it seems likely that it was either Nickern or Schoenborn in the Province of Brandenburg. Little is known of his life in Germany except that at the time of registration for emigration his place of residence was the village of Nickern and that his occupation was "Schäfer" (Shepherd). In Australia he was known as "Schäfer" LIEBELT'.
'Christian and his family were among the pioneer settlers in Hahndorf. Christian was allocated approx. 4 1/4 acres of land in the new village. His homestead block was numbered 15 (now 19). The block was near the northern end of the Main Street (no 106). In addition he received farming blocks numbered 21,25,36, 51c and 66b. (Now 59, 63, 86, 105 and 138). On September 16, Christian became the registered owner of this land; previously it had been vested in the original trustees of Hahndorf, Christian and Johann Christian Erdmann JAENSCH. Christian built his humble home of wattle and daub on this property. It consisted of two rooms and a porch. In addition, a cellar of similar construction was built somewhat removed from the house. Portion of this cellar still stands. In the door of the old homestead was a spear mark where a spear struck into the door after an aboriginal had thrown it at Maria Elisabeth as she fled into the house. She only just made it to safety.'
'In 1843 Christian had 3 acres of wheat under cultivation as well as 1/2 acre of potatoes. He owned 6 cattle and 2 pigs. After their marriage his two sons left the Hahndorf township and took up land at Friedrichstadt. His daughter Eleonore and her husband Carl FAEHRMANN lived on the old homestead. Originally Christian and his family were members of Pastor Kavel's congregation but in 1851 they joined Pastor FRITZSCHE's congregation.'
'Christian passed away on October 4, 1858. It appears that he died fairly suddenly as his will, made in German, was only witnessed on October 2 of that year; the witnesses to the will were his sons Gottlieb and Christoph and Reinder van der MOLEN'
'Maria Elisabeth was to have the use of the property, one room in particular, for the remainder of her life. On her death the property was to go to Johanne Eleonore FAEHRMANN. The homestead remained in the family until recent times.Christian was buried in the cemetery of the original church where his resting place is marked by a simple tombstone, which is still standing.'
'Inscription on tombstones: Here rests in God, our beloved father, Johann Christian LIEBELT. He was born on February 2, 1801, and died on October 4, 1858, aged 57 years, 5 months and 2 days. Jesus, only in your wounds Have I found the sinner's comfort.
Edward Otto MÜLLER
Edwin Carl, Hilda & Clarence MUELLER, the 3 children of Hulda KUCHEL & Edwin Otto MUELLER.
Ronald died the year he was born, 1923. Neither of these 3 children married and Hilda had a son who is the owner of this photographic collection.
For more information on the 'Zebra' see my article on Localwiki 'Hahndorf Pioneers, were your ancestors on the 'Zebra'.
Photo courtesy of Val Braendler. Lt -Rt, Ella Evyline, Alma KUCHEL Mavis and Bill BRAENDLER
9. References and Comments
This 'LIEBELT Family History' is still available, written by E.A. WITTWER and F.J. LIEBELT 1975.
'KUCHEL 1838-1970' by Vera SCHWERDT, George HILL & Allan WITTWER, 1970.
A College in the Wattles' by Reg BUTLER 1989
[01] Liebelt Family History pages 6, 7.
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