This is a page to discuss administration issues for the Santa Cruz wiki.

AlexDarocy is currently the admin of the Santa Cruz Wiki.


2007-09-23 17:00:53   Hi, folks,

Domains such as '' and '' are taken by what looks to be domain squatters. So, I registered '', '', and ''. I'm going to point them to this site, unless anyone has objections. I think it'd make sense to list more than one person as a point of contact for each domain, so let me know if you'd like to be one of those people.

thanks, —Graham.Freeman

2007-09-25 23:48:16   Should we have Community Standards? If we did, I would advocate for things like "Always use your real name when posting reviews, and please state a good reason for using an alias for any other edits."; "Treat other editors with respect, both in words and in deeds.", etc. What do you think? —Graham.Freeman

2007-09-30 16:57:37   Are you thinking something along the lines of daviswiki's, or a bit more simple. I'm good with something like a quick community standards bit and maybe some outside links too?

Along that lines, there's not really a well set up wiki admin/community area to this wiki yet, I believe. Things are a bit scattered. For instance this page, To Do, etc, are all created but not strongly linked. Other examples, this page is linked only to the front page, and Wiki_Community/All_Known_Macros exists, but Wiki_Community doesn't.

I'm not proposing any specific thing right now, but it is something related to keep in mind. There's no reason that a community standards page can't be made first and then put into the organizational system once it is established.

As far as the domain thing goes, I really know nothing about domain registration. If it would be helpful, I can be a point of contact. What does that mean?

Cheers, —BenChaney

2007-10-02 00:50:45   Hi, Ben,

Thanks for your input.

Ethics/standards: I'm thinking of same basic guidelines that we, the major contributors to date, agree upon. Yep, the Wiki Ethics page at Davis Wiki is a good example of what I have in mind. I really do mean basic, though - something a little more substantial than "Do unto others as you'd have done to you" but not much more so, given that we really are only just a little beyond starting out.

The wiki admin/community will grow in time. I wouldn't want to try to over-administer anything, but I think some guidance is helpful to well-intentioned people who are new to the concept of a community wiki.

re the domain name: The most important thing I'd like to accomplish is making is so that the domain name doesn't disappear if a single person (the one who happened to register it) disappears. Having two points of contact helps to prevent that. It also helps demonstrate to the community that Santa Cruz Wiki isn't just one person's pet project - that it's a community effort. Ideally the domain(s) will be registered to an organization rather than a person, but that organization doesn't exist (yet).

The risk to the Santa Cruz Wiki is that you have a greater chance of fights over control over the domain (though I think it's unlikely here).

The risk to the individuals listed is that they will be shown as points of contact for the wiki, which means that they're likely to be contacted by litigious jerks who get annoyed by free speech. For reference, I'm involved with administering the Davis Wiki, and we receive a few legal threats per year. (None of any substance, so far.) Fortunately, I have a lot of legal firepower available - ad-hoc advice and actual representation - and I'm well-insulated against judgments, which means it doesn't make any economic sense to go after me. Plus, the law treats noncommercial sites like this well. However, people can be very unreasonable and so the risk is non-zero.

FWIW, the more anonymous one-sided rants there are on the site, the more likely the "site admins" will be chased after by pitchfork-wielding attorneys. This ties back in to the ethics/community standards.

Sorry for being relatively incoherent. It's been a very, very long day.


2007-12-25 01:35:01   Random stuff: Sorry I've been gone for so long. I always say this (but hopefully this time I'll stick to it), I'm going to try to be a bit more present here. Anyway, I added a site statistics counter for almost no reason, and if people think it's a waste I shall remove it. The account is with Sitemeter, and the account name is s30scruzwiki. If people want it, I'll post the password somewhere. However, if you just click the little link at the bottom of the pages that say "sitemeter" it will take you to all the statistics.

Cheers, —BenChaney

2007-12-25 01:39:46   Wait a minute, I was an admin and didn't know it, but now I'm not? I'm confused. —MaryLieth

2007-12-26 00:47:56   I was trying to figure something out about how the admins are designated, and I was using your user name as an example. I guess if you'd like to be an admin I can make you one, I see no reason not to. Although, I also don't really know what the admin's can do, except change wiki settings. So, lemme know. —BenChaney

2007-12-26 00:48:47   I guess from that comment it's not clear: you weren't an admin to start out with. To test some things I added and removed you from admin status. But if you'd like, I'll put you on admin again. —BenChaney

2007-12-26 11:26:02   Just a heads-up: the "AdminGroup" page no longer affects adminship. The place to change admins is Wiki Settings (so the admingroup page can be deleted if you want) —PhilipNeustrom

2007-12-29 16:28:26   yeah, that was what I was trying to figure out by messing around with the admingroup page. That's what I figured, but good to know for sure. Thanks, —BenChaney

2008-03-10 14:51:55   I just received an email stating "I own the copyright to the rollergirl graphic that you have been posting. I have not given permission to anyone to use, post or distribute this graphic. The owner of the Santa Cruz Rollergirls, Robin Hoff has been notified and is fully aware that use of the graphic below is a copyright violation.

By posting, distributing, using or copying the graphic below you are in violation of copyright law, a federal offense; Library of Congress, United States Copyright Office registration number VA0001624379" from the email address: so I deleted the files in question.... —AlexDarocy

2008-03-10 21:09:07   With regard to that above notice, if an admin is about, please send me a message via the wiki or email. —JabberWokky

2011-05-22 11:23:44   Just a general note to people currently editing: Someone using a dynamic isp starting with 98.234 is intentionally adding factually incorrect information to pages, as well as one racist edit. My recommendation is to keep an eye out for the individual using this isp number and fact check their edits closely, or even just revert them immediately. I haven't noted all of the pages changed, but the last few were Santa Cruz High School, Santa Cruz Mission, and Santa Cruz Community School. —AlexDarocy

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